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April 17, 2006

River On A Bridge



This photo arrived in my inbox today with the following description:

Water Bridge in Germany. What a feat! Six years, 500 million euros, 918 meters long . . now this is engineering! This is a channel-bridge over the River Elbe and joins the former East and West ermany, as part of the unification project. It is located in the city of Magdeburg, near Berlin. The photo was taken on the day of inauguration.

To those who appreciate engineering projects, here's a puzzle for you armchair engineers and physicists. Did that bridge have to be designed to withstand the additional weight of ship and barge traffic, or just the weight of the water? Answer: It only needs to be designed to withstand the weight of the water! Why? A ship always displaces an amount of water that weighs the same as the ship, regardless of how heavily a ship may be loaded. Remember your high school physics, and the fly in an enclosed bottle project? Similarly, the super sensitive scale proved that it didn't make any difference whether the fly was sitting on the bottom, walking up the side, or flying around. The bottle, air, and fly were a single unit of mass and always weighed the same.

Snopes (which I wrote about here) verifies the existence of this bridge.

My husband the physicist and I were discussing the physics of this. We agreed that the bottle/fly example is a bad analogy because it is a closed system. Of course the fly/water/bottle entity will mass the same whether or not the fly is on the side of the container, or drowning in at the bottom of it's watery grave. That doesn't fit this scenario at all.

I agreed that the bridge structure would not have to account for the mass of the boat on it. The displaced water caused by the boat on the bridge would essentially run the length of the entire river so that at the point of the bridge, the displaced amount of water becomes negligible. And since the boat doesn't just drop onto the bridge from the sky, but is already in the water by the time it reaches the bridge, then there is no displacement of water when the boat enters onto the bridge.

But in a way, I noted, the bridge actually had to account for the weight of all the boats on the entire river. That is, say along that waterway there were 500 boats each massing 1000 tons. That's a total of 500,000 tons of water that will be displaced (essentially, that will rise) along the length of the river. But being a long waterway, 500,000 tons of displaced water disperses rather thinly. So again, at the point of the bridge, the difference is negligible.

Make sense? Do you agree or disagree?

This bridge, by the way, is almost a kilometer long.


15 Comments:

  • Fascinating. It sent me on a long Web surf. I visited Snopes, then the German news article linked there, and then the Deutsche-Welle news site, and learned all sorts of stuff about Germany.

    By Blogger Becky, at 4/18/2006 12:19 PM  

  • I don't fully understand how the channel bridge is constructed. If the water is fully contained in the structure and it is used fo ferry traffic back and forth, then surely it needs to bear the weight of water and boat. On the other hand, if it joins to a lake or river system into which the displaced water flows freely, it would not need to account for the weight of the ships.

    But then, I'm not an expert. How is the thing made? Looks very interesting. Maybe we could build some to move people around, like a beltway and cut down on traffic.

    By Anonymous Linda, at 4/18/2006 12:25 PM  

  • The bridge connects a couple canals. Regardless, it’s connecting something to something, so it cannot be a closed system. That is, the boats would not ride only along the bridge, and nowhere else. Those are my thoughts anyway.

    By Blogger twominutetrek, at 4/18/2006 12:27 PM  

  • Well, if it is a bridge to commute between cities, it could be closed. Just think of those possibilities. On the downhill side, no energy to move traffic, just back up. What a fuel saver.

    By Anonymous Linda, at 4/18/2006 12:28 PM  

  • I see what you're saying.

    By Blogger twominutetrek, at 4/18/2006 12:28 PM  

  • But was any of it pertinent?

    By Anonymous Jennifer, at 4/18/2006 5:09 PM  

  • Uh - the pertinent comment was to Becky.

    By Anonymous Jennifer, at 4/18/2006 5:11 PM  

  • For the same reason, melting the North Pole ice cap or the ice shelves off the coast of Antartica doesn't raise sea levels, because that ice is already floating. Worry about the ice melting on land in Antartica and Greenland. That's the difference between the boats already floating on the water and your crazy idea to drop them onto the bridge from a height. Perhaps we should avoid that.

    By Blogger Richard Koehler, at 4/19/2006 10:55 PM  

  • Good point on the ice cap, Richard. And I agree, we certainly would want to avoid dropping boats from the sky. I was illustrating in a tongue-in-cheek manner that the boat's mass is already accounted for because it is already in the waterway even before it hits the bridge.

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